Sigh

[skatien]

My host (hostrocket.com (http://hostrocket.com)) just disabled IonCude. So, i can't run vbwar until they restore it. So sad :(

We recently disabled IonCube due to severe security issues.
We apologize for the inconvenience, however, as soon as an
update for the problem is available, we will update and
restore the functionality of IonCube. Until then, we feel
it is of great importance to protect our customers from the
high probability of having their site exploited or
destroyed. We are closely monitoring the situation through
http://www.php.net for the update.

[Dark_Wizard]

My host (hostrocket.com (http://hostrocket.com)) just disabled IonCude. So, i can't run vbwar until they restore it. So sad :(

Huh? I know the owner Brendan...let me check in and find out what's going on as I cannot find any issues on php.net regarding security issues with Ioncube and PHP....I'll get back to you..

[skatien]

Thanks for looking into it!

[skatien]

They turned it back on :D

[Dark_Wizard]

They turned it back on :D

I know...I spoke with Ian that same day I responded to your thread and he said they were in the process of recompiling PHP to resolve the issue.

[Axelay]

My host doesn´t support Ioncube and I can´t edit the php.ini
I can´t start the IonCube Loader because dynamically loaded extensions aren´t allowed.
What I do now ? I purchased the script yesterday and wanted to use it. I don´t want to change the host because it´s a good one (except this)

[QUOTE]Recommended Requirements:
vBulletin 3.0.7 (latest version), MySQL 3.23.49 or later, PHP 4.3.10 or later, PHP Safe Mode disabled[QUOTE]

You should edit the recommended requirements text because of this. Is there another way to install ? This useless for me now :(
I wanted my money back if there is no other way to install ist.

[Dark_Wizard]

Your last PM to me indicated you were emailing your host....

[Axelay]

Ioncube is not supported and dynamically loaded extensions aren´t allowed :confused:

[Dark_Wizard]

Ioncube is not supported and dynamically loaded extensions aren´t allowed :confused:

Who is your hosting provider?

[Axelay]

My hosting provider supports no Ioncube and dynamcally loaded extensions.
I can´t use this hack and want my money back or you find another soulution. Ioncube is not in your "requirements list" therefore is not my fault.

I am very angry. 30 Dollar is not much but it´s your job to tell the conditions to install this script.

[arp insane]

You really should consider changing hosts,restrictions like these really are not helpful and any good host would let you use them. I did have the same problem as you when i installed vbwar but an email to my host and it was sorted. Vbwar is a very good package (some issues yes but i get the impression these will be fixed with the new version) and its a shame you wont be able to use it. maybe it would be a better idea to ask for an upgrade when the new version of vbwar is available, rather than start shouting and demanding money back :p

[Axelay]

Is Ioncube needed for the new version of vbwar ?
I will upgrade to vBulletin 3.5 when is out.

[Axelay]

Someone there :D ?

[Dark_Wizard]

Is Ioncube needed for the new version of vbwar ?
I will upgrade to vBulletin 3.5 when is out.

Yes it will be....ask your host why they won't put it on and post the response here...I would like to see what their reasoning is. Also I am a hosting provider as well and could set you up if you want...let me know.

[SirCampalot]

my host is hostdime. I asked them about being able to install ioncube and was told that they use SourceGuardian. Can both run at the same time? I am not familiar with either product so I have no idea.

[Dark_Wizard]

my host is hostdime. I asked them about being able to install ioncube and was told that they use SourceGuardian. Can both run at the same time? I am not familiar with either product so I have no idea.

Tell them SourceGuardian is crap and can easily be decompiled and if they don't believe me tell them I have proof. Lastly, if you want I can host your site...let me know if your interested.

[Gator777]

At present, I am using the standard "free" VWAR, and it works fine on my site. If the old "free" VWAR works on the site, will VBWAR work as well.

My host told me that they do not have Ioncube installed on my server, and that they only install it on their Windows servers.

Why is this needed? VBulletin does not require it, so why would you code something that would only work with a specific program like "Ioncube"?

Thanks

[Oap JTRipper]

Ioncube is needed because some of the files are encrypted & need ioncube to decode them, which in this day & age is not a bad thing due to the amount of people ripping other people off, if you dont believe me have a look on some newsgroups sometime.

Its not a big deal to enable Ioncube, its easy enough through the hosts WHM

Our host, bradhost.com enabled it for us

[Gator777]

I checked with my webhost and they do not support Ioncube. I really wanted to purchase this, but I cannot because of the restictions you placed on the VBWAR script requiring users to have Ioncube. Not many web hosts use this as it costs big bucks to install, so don't plan on selling too many copys of VBWar. You should also warn your customers that it is required prior to them purchasing.

I'm subscribed to this thread, and will monitor it to see if you release a version that does not require the use of Ioncube ...then I will buy it. Unti then, I cannot use it...

I am not switching hosts, as I have a site with 2GB of files and a 135MB VB database. I am using one of the largest and top rated webhosts in the US, and I am not going to leave them move and to some sub-standard webhost who "might" be using "Ioncube".

[Dark_Wizard]

I checked with my webhost and they do not support Ioncube. I really wanted to purchase this, but I cannot because of the restictions you placed on the VBWAR script requiring users to have Ioncube. Not many web hosts use this as it costs big bucks to install, so don't plan on selling too many copys of VBWar. You should also warn your customers that it is required prior to them purchasing.

I'm subscribed to this thread, and will monitor it to see if you release a version that does not require the use of Ioncube ...then I will buy it. Unti then, I cannot use it...

I am not switching hosts, as I have a site with 2GB of files and a 135MB VB database. I am using one of the largest and top rated webhosts in the US, and I am not going to leave them move and to some sub-standard webhost who "might" be using "Ioncube".

Your information is totally incorrect. If this is a "one of the largest and top rated webhosts in the US" then they know Ioncube is used by many developers and coders. I too am with a top hosting provider and they know the importance of Ioncube and Zend as tools of the trade for quite a few script writers.

vBWar will always be encoded to protect our intellectual property. Now you may remove your subscription.

[Natch]

Two things:

1: that is a very small website, relatively speaking and a move would be a minor issue.

2: Ioncube is not an expensive thing to install, neither in technical time to do, nor in outlay of funds.

Addendum: if you were moving hosts, it would nto be a matter of them possibly using Ioncube: whenever you purchase anything (product, service, etc) it is a useful idea to know what you are buying. Read the EULA, terms of service, product disclsure statement if you need to know: that way you will know if they support Ioncube, PHP, MySQL and any of the other services you may need... If you were not informed or at least given access to this kind of information when you joined up, then maybe your current host is not all its cracked up to be?

[Gator777]

Your information is totally incorrect. If this is a "one of the largest and top rated webhosts in the US" then they know Ioncube is used by many developers and coders. I too am with a top hosting provider and they know the importance of Ioncube and Zend as tools of the trade for quite a few script writers.

vBWar will always be encoded to protect our intellectual property. Now you may remove your subscription.

First of all, my webhost is IX Web Hosting - www.ixwebhosting.com They own their own data center in Kentucky, USA, and are highly rated. Just type in a search engine and find out for yourself, or look here as I found a few:

http://www.thehostingchart.com/
http://www.top-10-web-hosting.com/

Also, its interesting that...

www.vbulletin.com has a way to protect their "intellectual property" without the use of Ioncube (or whatever it is called). I purchased VBulletin and remain a loyal customer today.

www.vbadvanced.com has a way to protect their "intellectual property" without the use of "Ioncube". I purchased two of Brian's products, VBGallery and VBLinks, and remain a loyal customer. I also use his free portal, which by the way I see you are using as well.

I didn't come here to dispute you right to protect your "intellectual property", but rather I came here to see if you were serious about selling your product. I can see by your response that you are not. You should consider using a "common sense" approach to salesmanship vs. the "need for greed". Good luck my friend!

Subscription removed!

[Natch]

vBulletin have large volumes and large lawyers to help when people do steal their product: Brian piggybacks off the vB.org registration system, but this will not protect his *code*.

If you call it greed for us to protect our intellectual property by preventing yourself and others from buying one copy and passing it to all of your friends, well and good... bye.

[Oap JTRipper]

First of all, my webhost is IX Web Hosting - www.ixwebhosting.com They own their own data center in Kentucky, USA, and are highly rated. Just type in a search engine and find out for yourself, or look here as I found a few:

http://www.thehostingchart.com/
http://www.top-10-web-hosting.com/

Also, its interesting that...

www.vbulletin.com has a way to protect their "intellectual property" without the use of Ioncube (or whatever it is called). I purchased VBulletin and remain a loyal customer today.

www.vbadvanced.com has a way to protect their "intellectual property" without the use of "Ioncube". I purchased two of Brian's products, VBGallery and VBLinks, and remain a loyal customer. I also use his free portal, which by the way I see you are using as well.

I didn't come here to dispute you right to protect your "intellectual property", but rather I came here to see if you were serious about selling your product. I can see by your response that you are not. You should consider using a "common sense" approach to salesmanship vs. the "need for greed". Good luck my friend!

Subscription removed!


actually have you seen the amount of vbulletin releases available on usenet that have had the "protection" removed

If i were releasing a script that was for sale, I would either use ioncube or zend to encode it

If vBwar wasnt encoded it would have been on usenet within 24 hours

[Gator777]

Ok, I just spoke to a knowledgeable tech support person at my web host, who explained to me that all I would need is the "Ioncube Installer" loaded into the php script folder. He said it was rather simple to install, but said he would give me help if I needed it. If this is true, why don't you explain this fact to your potential buyers? Also, does this have a performance impact when the VBWar pages load?

I was under the impression that I would have to buy up uo $300 worth of Ioncube software to run your script, so tell me ...Is this true? How difficult would it be for me to install Ioncube on my website without shell access?

And buy the way, I would not share your scripts ...I have much more integrity than that, but I know you have no way of knowing this... so I understand.

[FASherman]

Ok, I just spoke to a knowledgeable tech support person at my web host, who explained to me that all I would need is the "Ioncube Installer" loaded into the php script folder. He said it was rather simple to install, but said he would give me help if I needed it.
Correct, as long as PHP isn't running in safe mode.

If this is true, why don't you explain this fact to your potential buyers?
I'm guessing they have to assume that people who are site admins have some level of expertise.

Also, does this have a performance impact when the VBWar pages load?
Not that you'd ever notice. PHP itself is an interpreted language, which makes it "slower" in computer terms than compiled code. But on a human level, you'll never be able to tell.

I was under the impression that I would have to buy up uo $300 worth of Ioncube software to run your script, so tell me ...Is this true?
Of course not.

How difficult would it be for me to install Ioncube on my website without shell access?
As difficult as installing vBulletin or any other script.

And buy the way, I would not share your scripts ...I have much more integrity than that, but I know you have no way of knowing this... so I understand.
Most people do. As in most things, the minority ruins it for the majority.

[EuT]

How difficult would it be for me to install Ioncube on my website without shell access?
PLAIN and simple...
Just get the needed Ioncube files from the links that gets shown when the error message pops up and upload those to your parent or pre public folder and you're all set.

Just dont ask me what the links is since I'm using before I got vbwar the ioncube loaders and got the ioncube linux set in /home/<myaccount>/.ioncube/ before /public_html/

In other words, no matter where I place a Ioncube file it will be shown instantly.

[Gator777]

PLAIN and simple...
Just get the needed Ioncube files from the links that gets shown when the error message pops up and upload those to your parent or pre public folder and you're all set.

Just dont ask me what the links is since I'm using before I got vbwar the ioncube loaders and got the ioncube linux set in /home/<myaccount>/.ioncube/ before /public_html/

In other words, no matter where I place a Ioncube file it will be shown instantly.

Thanks for your help. :D